Former Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter released the following statement after Congressman Frank Guinta made false statements about the Affordable Care Act on radio.
"Congressman Frank Guinta should stop voting to repeal the Affordable Care Act until he reads it. He misled Boston radio listeners when he wrongly claimed that Congress is not required to be in the new Health Care Exchanges and, as Factcheck.org refutes, that there will be 16,000 IRS agents. People deserve facts, not false talking points.”
Background
- Congressman Guinta on the Repeal of Obamacare on the Howie Carr Show: http://audio.wrko.com/a/59235118/congressman-frank-guinta-r-nh-on-the-repeal-of-obamacare.htm
- The Hill Healthcare Blog: Repealing health law would mean more benefits for members of Congress: http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/politics-elections/236823-repealing-health-law would-mean-more-benefits-for-members-of-congress
- Factcheck.org on false 16,000 IRS Agents claim http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/
Lucy C Edwards
4:28 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
I spoke with a woman on Medicare yesterday evening who was very concerned because her Republican relatives were telling her that she was going to lose her doctor due to the healthcare law. After we talked for a bit, she asked me why the Republicans were lying to people about this? It seems cruel to me, to lie to vulnerable people about their healthcare options. I guess it must be the only way they see to be re-elected.
She did ask if there were someplace on the computer where she could get information about the healthcare law and what it really does, and I directed her to www.healthcare.gov.
It's a shame that Frank Guinta can't tell the truth. If this senior is willing to go on the internet to find out the facts, why can't Frank?
Hardy Har Har Har
11:33 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
ObamaCare Steals 500 Billion from MediCare. Are you ignoring that.
Steve From NH
12:44 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
"Obamacare" seeks to eliminate 500 billion in medicare waste and fraud. Get your facts straight.
Gerald Sneirson
4:44 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
I believe that it was Mark Twain who said that a man who does not read is no better off than a man who can not read.
Lenore Patton
5:47 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
As more people read about the benefits in the Affordable Care Act, the percentage of people who approve of it increases. Maybe if Guinta actually read the Act, he'd see how many Americans will be better off because of it. Then again, maybe he doesn't care. He already has government insurance.
Hardy Har Har Har
11:34 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Obama has not read ObamaCare
Susan Mayer
8:07 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
It would be refreshing if Mr. Guinta actually cared about the facts and checked them out before irresponsibly spewing his party's twisted and false talking points. The Affordable Care Act is going to stop the worst insurance company abuses, save lives, improve the public health, close the Medicare Part D "donut" hole, and prevent medical bankruptcies, which are currently rampant--among many other positive effects and benefits. I haven't noticed that Mr. Guinta has one single proposal for insuring the 50 million people currently uninsured, not to mention the under-insured. I care about my fellow Americans, and Mr. Guinta should too. He's supposed to represent us! He shows all the caring of Scrooge before the ghost visited.
Hardy Har Har Har
11:35 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Have to throw this loser of a law out and start from scratch. The PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THE LAW.
Chaz Proulx
11:04 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Frank Guinta is on thin ice. It won't be long before he has to face Carol Shea-Porter in a debate.
The last time these two faced off Mr. Guinta didn't have a voting record in Congress. Now he does.
All the Tea Party sound bites in the world won't cover up Mr. Guinta's constant deceptions when confronted with the truth.
I for one, can't wait!
Hardy Har Har Har
11:33 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Carol already fell through that ice.
Eva Powers
11:22 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Mr. Guinta states that 16,000 IRS agents would be hired to enforce penalties for those not enrolling in Affordable Health Care. There is no evidence to support 16,000 and no evidence that these would be agents instead of clerks and data entry workers. The role of the IRS would be informing small business owners of a new tax credit starting this year. Shame on you Mr. Guinta.
Hardy Har Har Har
11:31 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Exactly who is going to collect all those Taxes in ObamaCare?
Hardy Har Har Har
11:23 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
The headline is a joke, right. Carol still has not read the bill and she certainly has not talked about all the taxes hitting the middle class and the poor. How about the POOR Carol.
Mimi C
10:21 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Like Mr. Har Har, people did not like Social Security in 1935. People did not like Medicare in 1965. Today, both initiatives are the most popular programs in the country. Just like the Affordable Care Act will be in a decade.
Timothy Harden
11:46 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Natl Debt $15,873,900,000,000.
I believe CSP has no concept of the significance of all these zeros. It affects me, my children and my grandchildren.
Hardy Har Har Har
12:11 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
I doubt she understand, nor does she even care.
Gerald Sneirson
1:41 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Wow, a Democrat gets into office and he is supposed to instantly wipe out the huge debt that he was handed by GWB who gave huge tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires and ran two wars on a credit card? I didn't hear a peep from the right while all that was going on. It would serve us right if the massive austerity measures that the TP Republicans favor got passed and put us into a major depression, which it what would surely happen. Too bad we can't live in parallel universes, I'd like to see the comparative results.
Timothy Harden
7:02 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
@Gerald Mr Obama promised to cut the deficit in half. In four years it has gone up by 5 TRILLION. Are all democrats stupid.
Mimi C
10:28 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
The Bush-era tax cuts and the Iraq and Afghanistan wars will account for half of our national debt in 2019. What do we have to show for that debt? The Affordable Care Act will save our country money in the long run, but more important, it is a moral imperative. A decade from now, your children and grandchildren will applaud the efforts of Carol Shea-Porter.
susanthe
1:37 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
If you were truly concerned about debt, Mr. Hardon, you'd be demanding Pentagon accountability.
Susan Mayer
12:21 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Ms. Shea-Porter did read the bill, as you would know, Mr. Hardy-Har-Har, if you knew anything about the legislative process. She was on one of the committees that wrote the bill (Education & Labor) and worked on it for many months. She was also present through the mark-up of the bill, which took almost 24 hours. FYI, during a mark-up, a bill is read through title by title to the end and amended.
The one who clearly has not read the bill is Mr. Guinta. I know this because he constantly misinforms people about the facts -- about what the law does -- as he did on the radio program referenced above. A less attractive possibility is that he has read the bill and is deliberately misinforming people about what's in it. Take your pick -- just lazy or lying?
You mention the middle class and the poor, as if you cared about them. If you did, you would understand the glaring need for health insurance coverage for the 50 million uninsured Americans. This law addresses that need and will penalize insurers who rake in mega-profits at the expense of those they insure, and prevent insurer abuses like caps on coverage we paid for, refusal to cover preexisting conditions, making being a woman a preexisting condition, and throwing people out as soon as they get sick.
Hardy Har Har Har
7:25 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Does the legislative process include CSP being a puppet of Nancy Pelosi? I do not think so.
CSP does not give a hoot about what the people in her district want or prioritize. That would be politics 101.
Hardy Har Har Har
8:00 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
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Robert Kroner
8:13 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Hardy Har Har, you are a coward, using a pseudonym, go ahead, hide behind your sarcasm amd phony name.
Hardy Har Har Har
8:16 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Not as bad as Carole Shea Porter hiding behind Nancy Pelosi. Hey Carol represent people in NH.
Susan Mayer
9:36 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Unfortunately Ms. Shea-Porter is no longer representing NH-1; Mr. Guinta allegedly is. One of his duties as a member of Congress is to "promote the general welfare" (Preamble to US Constitution), which is what the Affordable Care Act absolutely does by making sure tens of millions more Americans get health coverage. So Mr. Guinta and the other tea-party Republicans in Congress have allowed their ideology and loyalty to their party to preempt their duty to constituents and the American people. This is a terrible failure and breach of trust.
As for Ms. Pelosi, I could also say Mr. Guinta hides behind Speaker Boehner from his voting record. Please! Drop this irrelevancy. And as Mr. Kroner notes, you are hiding yourself, so you are hardly the one to cast stones about hiding. Come out and identify yourself, and use arguments and facts like a thinking person instead of talking points and personal attacks like a partisan hack.
Steve From NH
1:06 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
If I remember correctly, Ms. Shea Porter worked pretty hard on Veterans issues when she was in the house. This was at a time when Republicans were talking about "The Troops! The Troops!" while sending those troops into battle in Iraq - as if sending troops into a badly mismanaged war was somehow patriotic. At the same time, wounded troops were being sent home to underfunded programs and to hospitals (Walter Reed) that you wouldn't send your dog to. Those "patriots" had no regard for broken troops, they had outlived their usefulness.
Guinta fits that same mold - he doesn't really do much more than come up with catchy phrases and bumper sticker slogans that misrepresent what he is really up to. Like his "Save the Bay" bill - which was an attempt to gut regulations that keep businesses from adopting practices that would re-foul the bay. He says one thing, does another or nothing at all.
Carol, on the other hand, means what she says, says what she means, and acts accordingly. If you are happy with an empty suit taking orders from the Tea Party and big corporations who really don't give a hoot about your lives, vote for Guinta. If you are happy with someone who can't be bothered to read more than would fit on a bumper sticker, vote for Guinta.
If you want someone who has a proven record of fighting for the troops when they really needed a champion, and has a proven record of representing you and I even though we aren't rich, vote for Carol.
Hardy Har Har Har
9:54 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Lets not forget Carol got Thrown Out of Congress. She got Fired by the people of this state. Fired "For Cause".
Gary Hoffman
9:59 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Carol Che-Porter did not read it before voting on it, not that it would have mattered in any case! She defied the citizens who voted her out by voting yes on something we did not want or need while she was a "lame duck".
The number of uninsured is such a nonsensical number, even Obama claimed 30 million last week, and Ms. Mayer is now saying 50 million! I have no idea what the number really is, and how many of those are the 20 million illegal aliens that should be deported, but why should I be forced to pay at IRS gunpoint for those in any case? This is the biggest tax increase in world history, and 70% of the population is on the verge of rebellion. How about you pay your bills and I pay mine?
Timothy Harden
10:05 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
How about some truth in advertising. A current picture of Carol please.
Hardy Har Har Har
10:20 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
If Carol read this law she knew about all the axes in it. All the taxes that are hitting the POOR and the MIDDLE CLASS.
Carol talk about the Taxes or are you avoiding the topic.
Mimi C
10:35 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Unfortunately, reading the Affordable Care Act would require a willing, open mind. It is easier for Guinta to spew rhetoric and lies to frighten people. We need a person like Carol Shea-Porter to stand up for the majority of us, and to do the courageous work that needs to be done in Congress.
Timothy Harden
11:15 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
It is not courageous to be a liar. It is disgusting to be a liar.
Ready About
11:27 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Ya gotta luv all these democRATs saying nice things about shea porter.
Ready About
11:51 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Hard Alee, Hard Alee
Pirate ship democRat spotted off Starboard Bow
Hardy Har Har Har
11:58 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
That is funny
Ready About
12:11 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
Seacoast democRATS are LANDLUBBERS.
Hardy Har Har Har
12:35 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
@ Ready About
weve got to hook up. Ask at the Striker. if you get that way.
Steve From NH
1:12 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
Hardy and Ready, are you out of the 5th grade yet? Do you really think that "democRAT" and your other idiotic comments and childish arguments constitute an intelligent discussion? If you two represent the typical Guinta supporters (and I think you might just) then we can't get rid of him fast enough.
Hardy Har Har Har
1:23 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
@Steve
We got rid of Porter, Why does she not take a hint?
Read her headline. Pretty dopey.
Ready About
1:41 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
There is a difference between a Boat and a Ship. Carol does not understand that. If you think that is irrelevant, then vote for Carol. Ditto on taxes Carol.
Ready About
2:16 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
A toast to the fishermen, the lobstermen. A toast to all those who came before. Your fathers, your grandfathers and brothers and sisters and family. Its all gone now and not many of us left. Thanks to the democrat regulators. Catch those lobsters, after all they are 2 bucks a pound, when its 5, no way. Thanks to Obama for the price of diesel, we people are so passé and irrelevant. We are all of the past and just well, quaint. Restaurants will open to see you struggle by and give you the finger as you putter by.
A mans man am I, hardly, I will though fish until I am dead.
Tonight I drink and get drunk and I toast to all of you who know what I am talking about.
Carol Sea Porter, Durham, Exeter Lynch, Hassan and Cilley, I pour myself a double.
A prayer, of course. For you and for me.
Hardy Har Har Har
3:18 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
Can anybody picture CSP on a Lobster Boat?
Great post Ready About. Democrats talk, but have no clue about who delivers. My prayers are with you and all of the fisherman and their families. Democrats have this thing with condoms and not prayers.
Richard C Barnes
3:23 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
We have to pass it in order to see what's in it. Remember those words? Now Democrats dare challenge anyone on reading bills, that's a laugh when they admittedly didn't read it either.
Carol also apparently didn't read FactCheck.org either because it is stating Frank is wrong only due to a technicality in terminology. They point out that not everyone working for the IRS is an "Agent" and thus it is incorrect to say thousands of new "Agents" would be hired. Although it does point out on FactCheck that ObamaCare does most like increase the IRS budget between $5 to $10 Billion.
So yes Carol I agree, people do need facts, not talking points... take your own advice.
Hardy Har Har Har
3:37 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
Sort of like an enema. The CSP Enema so to speak
Hardy Har Har Har
3:39 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
Skip the condoms Carol. Enemas for everybody.
Ready About
4:09 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
OK I got a 1988 20 footer. Do I have to sell that too?":
Susan Mayer
5:55 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
The FactCheck.org article, "IRS Expansion" (http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/) does NOT say what is claimed. Here's an excerpt:
"This wildly inaccurate claim started as an inflated, partisan assertion that 16,500 new IRS employees might be required to administer the new law. That devolved quickly into a claim, made by some Republican lawmakers, that 16,500 IRS "agents" would be required. Republican Rep. Ron Paul of Texas even claimed in a televised interview that all 16,500 would be carrying guns. None of those claims is true.
The IRS’ main job under the new law isn’t to enforce penalties. Its first task is to inform many small-business owners of a new tax credit that the new law grants them — starting this year — which will pay up to 35 percent of the employer’s contribution toward their workers’ health insurance. And in 2014 the IRS will also be administering additional subsidies — in the form of refundable tax credits — to help millions of low- and middle-income individuals buy health insurance."
Read the article to the end--you'll see that the $5-10 billion was based on an inaccurate preliminary estimate. They updated the article on Feb. 22, 2012 to include the actual number of IRS full-time equivalent employees (FTEs) the Dept. of Treasury requested (1,291) at a cost of $473 million, including only 291 IRS agents, 193 of whom will "ensure accurate delivery of tax credits." That's $473 million, not $5-10 billion.
Richard C Barnes
2:31 pm on Saturday, July 14, 2012
The 291 IRA agents were for THIS YEAR, most of the healthcare law hasn't even taken effect yet so based on that it's clear they will hire more in upcoming year.
Also you are mixing numbers. The $473 million again is for THIS YEAR, where as the $5 to $10 Billion is over 10 years. Half a billion a year for 10 years is $5 and that is without any additional agents being hired as the law actually takes effect.
Seems to me that facts are supporting the claim more then not.
Bob Samson
12:41 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012
Summary of ObamaCare Taxes
1. Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals
2. Codification of the “economic substance doctrine
3. “Black liquor” tax hike
4. Tax on Innovator Drug Companies
5. Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike
6. Tax on Indoor Tanning Services
7. Medicine Cabinet Tax
8. HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike
9. Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2
10. Surtax on Investment Income
11. Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax
12. Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers
13. Raise "Haircut" for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10%
14. Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka “Special Needs Kids Tax”
15. Elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D
16. $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives
17. Individual Mandate Excise Tax
18. Employer Mandate Tax (Jan 2014):
19. Tax on Health Insurers:
20. Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans
Read more: http://atr.org/full-list-obamacare-tax-hikes-a6996#ixzz1zIM4LtF3
Brian St. Onge
9:46 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
The democrats didn't read the bill before they passed it. Why should the republicans read it before they repeal it? Whatcha trying to do Carol, compete with Joe Biden for the Foot-in-Mouth Award? You are a former member of Congress and will remain so after the November election.
Dean Rubine
9:04 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Frank Guinta is running away from his Tea Party roots, but the Internet never forgets. http://notintaguinta.blogspot.com/2012/11/frank-guinta-tea-party-or-not-tea-party.html
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